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@jac 26141 wrote:

Great place to belong to.. thanks to all concerned… You mite want to alter the time difference so I dont have to sit up all nite or wait till nxt day to find out whats happnin:D..
John

I’ll work on that one for you John :rolleyes:

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Actually, I think The Evener is the directory for draft animal power links/services and is put out by RH. If I recall, it used to be a separate publication but I found it stapled inside of the most recent RH (the one w/ Donn’s article in it).

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Hi Tim,

You might contact Tiller’s International in Scotts, MI about seed sources. If I recall, they did (and maybe still do) a sorghum pressing with cane I always thought they’d grown and harvested themselves.

Isn’t it amazing how seed for certain plants/crops that were so common a generation or so back are so hard to find now days? I found that when looking for flax seed used for growing flax for linen as opposed to oil or seed.

Keep looking because there’s always someone out there who has conserved the seed – just got to find ’em.

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@Carl Russell 26097 wrote:

So it seems like this thread is the most appropriate place to post.

Four years ago I had never used the internet for anything. When David Fisher suggested that we consider creating a discussion forum for draft animal power, I had no idea what that meant on one hand, and no idea where it would go on the other hand.

Now a little over three years later this is what we have created… together. Now DAP.com is the centerpiece of the newly formed DAPNet, with over 3000 user members.

I have been really inspired by the growth of this community. I have also really enjoyed being at the helm of this site, performing administration, and moderating. As many of you are aware I have spent a lot of time here not just as administrator, but participating as well.

With the development of DAPNet, we are looking forward to sharing responsibilities with other people.

Recently Geoff Pritchard (near horse) has started taking over administration of this site. I will stay on for a while to give him assistance, but I am also looking forward to getting back to the lifestyle where I actually don’t HAVE to go on-line everyday. No doubt I will be visiting regularly anyway

Anyway, from now on start to think of Geoff when you have questions or need assistance. I expect he will make a post soon.

Thank you all for a wonderful time.

Love you all, Carl

First, I can only hope to maintain the quality product and experience that this forum has grown into under Carl’s guidance. I think we are all grateful beyond words for the work you’ve done here Carl. Thank you.

PLEASE – If there’s anything that any of you, the users, feel needs to be addressed let me know and I’ll do my best to take care of it or find an answer. In addition, this forum, like DAPNet, is really a community product and as such will grow and benefit from your input. So any of your suggestions are also greatly appreciated. PM me at any time.

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Michael – that’s a terrible tragedy to be sure. In my area (ID), the Dept of Lands (and other logging safety orgs) post single page descriptions of the accidents that have occurred in the woods that year. It’s incredible some of the things that can happen – from basic tree kickbacks or tops snapping off to equipment rollovers and felling onto a p/u that was coming in to bring the crew out.

What state are you in? And I hope his family will have good support.

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@dominiquer60 26106 wrote:

Geoff,
This is such a tease, I can’t make out hardly any of the smaller company names. The only one that I am somewhat sure of is that Jung is owned by ASI which is owned by Monsanto. After hearing rumors that Monsanto owned Jung, I specifically asked them if this was true, the woman taking my order said that they were not and that they are privately owned. She failed to mention that the private part was owned by the big M 🙁

I have 2 open pollinated corn varieties that I like from Shumway which is owned by Jung, at least I can save them. I need to see who else to boycott next year when I spend my hard earned money on seed.

I even downloaded the pdf to see if I could make out any of the other names but no such luck, any suggestions on how to get the small company names.

Erika

Sorry Erika. I also downloaded the pdf (the full article) and then used the “magnifier” thing (+ and -) to enlarge the image (resolution drops but readable).

Also, some othe good graphics – breaks it down with one big corp per graphic further down the article.

BTW – I’ve got a seed cleaner (more of a scalper) but …. I’m open for business (and it’ll fit on a trailer easy). Bring it on MontSynPont!

Geoff

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Thanks Andy –

I just pulled out my old Draft Horse Primer by Maurice Telleen and flipped through the small discussion on drills. One of last sentences says “All these types of furrow openers are interchangeable.” If I recall the section on HD machinery in DHP was copied from old JD Machinery Maintenance and Operation Manual from the 20’s or 30’s – so the statement is likely invalid.

I too have thought about cutting down my old Oliver – just felt it might be more complicated than just cutting down the width. Might need to re-evaluate.

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Nice, Jason! Might I suggest a more detailed view of the ground you’re skidding across to make the low impact case even clearer?

On a different note – I heard praises being sung about how the Chinese import log market has kept US mills running while our housing slump has dropped domestic lumber demand. I’m not sure exactly how I feel about this as I don’t want folks working at the mills to be out of work but China is just devouring the planet’s resources at an alarming rate. I think there was a movie about this ….. called “The Blob”

[near horse]

With regard to line pressure I always think of the acronym ALARP I learned back in radiation safety class 😮 referring to using radioactivity in research – As Low As Reasonably Possible.

[near horse]

Carl – I think you have touched on a major point in teaching/learning philosophy. Some will use the terms “process” vs “product” – process being understanding how to learn something and product being the knowledge/ability to do a particular thing.

IMO – to get on my soap box here, we don’t do a very good job teaching people how to learn, instead we provide factoids to BE learned.

The advantage of a process is it can be used or applied to new information to achieve a new goal (ie. bitting, standing, working 3 abreast …).

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Thanks Tim! Is it easy (or possible) to convert from hoe style openers to discs? I have an old Oliver Superior drill (w/ double discs) but it’s pretty wide and too heavy for just a team to pull and have only found hoe style openers on the rare smaller disc I can find.

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@Countymouse 25979 wrote:

Here’s one technique…
http://www.umanitoba.ca/afs/agronomists_conf/poster_pdf/Caroline_Halde_poster.pdf

The variable responses to crop rollers seems to be pretty common at this point in time. But as I was reading this article, I wondered “how come we just don’t mow it and let it lay there?” Is the small strip we leave “mulchess” due to the grassboard providing room for the inner mower shoe really very significant? It seems to me that if a roller’s trying to kill the green manure crop, mowing might do just as well and utilize a piece of equipment many of us already own.

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Hey Robert,

It’s the newest issue Apr/May 2011 – on news stands now. I picked it up at Del’s Farm Supply in Lewiston (up the Thain grade). If you want, I’ll bring it with me when I visit (unless you’re ready to start cutting some harness right now :confused:). Donn also has some pics of the process at his photo site – I think it’s a picasa picture site.

Have fun.

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Hi Jenny,

I’ve got a few more pics from this year’s event at Wilson Creek I could add but posted the one’s I thought folks might find most interesting. Many were taken from the seat of the plow at rest breaks – so distance is an issue.

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Hey Andy,

I’m with you on this one – true no-till as I understand it does rely on herbicide apps and fertilizer apps at seeding which doesn’t really suit my tastes too well. As I’m sure you recall, the palouse is noted for it’s high level of soil erosion, particularly if left open over winter – in fact NRCS (or whoever it is now) requires a certain percentage of crop residue to be left in the field over winter to be in compliance and eligible for federal crop programs – I think that really pushed the advancement of no-till operations.

I’m not sure how I could integrate a small no-till drill into my “proposed” system but I certainly have the same soil issues as the rest of the region (highly erodable). I was looking at those crop rollers that you run over your green manure crop and then direct seed into the “mulch” but it seems they are hit and miss in effectively killing the green manure crop – like Tim mentioned. Sometimes it gets squashed but isn’t dead. In addition, the pics i saw looked like a pretty heavy thatch to plant into – not even sure how. I almost thought about making a seeder built like those drum shaped aerators that sort of punch holes in sod. I envisioned them “punching through the green manure mat” and dropping in a seed or more. Hadn’t really figured out how much of it could work so, like most of my ideas, is half-baked:confused:

Not to enter into your relationship stuff but gently remind your wife that she married you (I’m assuming) because you aren’t like everyone else 😮

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