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ParticipantIn the last many many years I have had and handled a lot of bulls. I have found that most bulls disposition is exactly what some human has made it.
ParticipantSeveral years ago we put a six month old steer on a tread mill at the Ag Progress Days at Penn State. I don’t remember what they had it hitched to but the profesor that was running it was very happy.
At a steam show we put a pair of Devon steers on one belted to a threshing machine for about a half hour, they done a good job.
One of those advertised in the SFJ would be great on a buzz saw.ParticipantThey train and work ok if it is raining or snowing but if the sun wants to shine they want to be in the shade.
The ones I had wouldn’t even come out of the shade to eat, they would wait until the sun went down.ParticipantMike
I would not buy at the auction, but that is the best place to go to find out what an honest price is.
I did basicly what I think you are wanting to do up until a few years ago.
I done it with papered Milking Devons. If I was going to do it with grade cattle I would go with Brown Swiss.
AI is the safest way to go BUT you had better know what you are doing so if have no experience with cattle you better do studying.
I done it with the Devons mostly because they are an indangerd breed.ParticipantCarl is right Dexters are very Fiesty I have a friend that was nearly killed by a nice gentle Dexter bull, He was laid up for a long time.
Never Never make a pet out of a animal that is as large or larger than you are.
Teach then to respect you from day one they are never to young to learn respect.
Casturation will help to make this easyier but that is no cure all.
The main thing in teaching any animal to do is to win his respect.
A bull or a stallion are the best behaved animals on the farm because he is waiting for you make a mistake so he can KILL YOU…ParticipantWhy not have two cows and the bull you are feeding to breed with is no more expensive for feed than one that you would keep to breed with. He will be growing where the other one is just trying to keep you on your toes.
You should be able to buy a bull calf the size of a feeder calf for feeder calf price or very little more.
If you have geneticly good cows you might be able to trade a bull calf for one from some one.Participant#1 feed and water the calf BEFORE you take him out.
#2 NEVER feed or water him when you bring him back, Make another trip to feed and water him, make him wait at least half an hour.
#3 If he tries to go to fast towards the barn,stop wait a minute then turn him around and back him toward the barn a little ways then turn him around and start again, repeat as needed.
#4 When you get to the barn do not stop, go past and then back to the barn.ParticipantWe use a log grab, which is a sort of hook, driven into the log with a large hammer or, or grab driver. We take it out with a grab skiper.
In the day of the CPL a man could work full time just snipping logs and driving grabs. A good grab driver could drive the grabs so they would stay on top of the log when they skid them.ParticipantI think I would get out my corn knife and simply shock that amount of corn.
I believe you would get more feed for the buck.ParticipantBulls were used for work quite a bit years ago. If they were going to be used for work they generaly would not let them be near a cow. The big woods teams would have one bull in the team just to keep the others on edge.
I like working cows, with 9 acres a good pair of Milking Devon cows would be all you would need.
I used them for years. Buy a 6 month old bull in the fall and breed the cows with him the next spring. Then that fall you butcher him for beef and buy another.ParticipantI think it is mostly what they are trained to.
ParticipantCarl
I am glad I can be of help to some one.
Merry Christmas.ParticipantIf they can back it in with a tractor you should be able to back it in with a team. I put the big round bales in the feeder with my steers.
Step back and use your imagination!Participantbivol
I found it very interesting that I have two yokes just like the ones on the cattle in that WWI picture. I wonderd where the originated.
ParticipantMost cattle if you are going to ask them to use their horns and have a halter on them the part going over their neck has to be very small. I find a few old yokes with britchen rings on them. I do not have them on my double yoke as I never have halters on my steers. I had them on the yoke for the cows because some of the loads were to heavy for them to back on their horns.
I put britchen rings on all of my single yokes just because it makes it so much more convienent and it also makes it stronger.- AuthorPosts