[CharlyBonifaz]

did you pre-drill the holes for nails, or use screws instead of nails?

sorry, for not clarifying: 🙁
pre-drill the holes! don’t screw!

[CharlyBonifaz]

oxen have thinner hoof walls than horses, so thinner nails are needed.

also leaves you with less room for error
at the same time their hoofhorn is a lot harder/resistant than horses’, so regular hoofnails won’t do the trick: they will bend/curl
we used a dremel to put the holes were we wanted them……
elke

[CharlyBonifaz]

but please, let’s not be ridiculous

hmmm……
there are ancient myths in Germany about 2 pigs that were used to pull the carts of/were being ridden by Norse God/Godess Freya and Freyr
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Freyr_art.jpg&filetimestamp=20050731170559
and it seems in ancient Egypt they were used to plow the fields; they were cherished for the depth of their tracks was the very depth required for sowing corn/grain
not quite so long ago, sows were ridden by the “porcine shepherds” on their way out into the woods and back home
pigs are clever and smart, to say the least

[CharlyBonifaz]

@Sanhestar

Unfortunately I haven’t found a vet yet who knows about this method here in Germany….

simply forbidden over this way

@all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-udsIV4Hmc
is on lamb castration, but right on the spot 🙂

[CharlyBonifaz]

1/ mobile phone contact every 30 minutes to a partner or a colleague, there are also companys who for a small fee will contact you through your mobile phone or a reciever .
2/ First aid kit on logging belt.
3/ carry whistle in pocket
4/ walky talky,reciever can be left in house of neighbour adjacent to wood
5/ Always know your grid reference, nearest hospital / doctor / ambulance, this should be part of a risk assesment and carried on your self, if trapped / injured you can relay these to the emergency services.
6/ In the case of no phone signal you can diall [ 112 ] it will get you through to emergency numbers.

in Germany we have various systems that spring into life when a mobile phone (worn in your pocket) that actually registers your movement doesn’t do so for a while; it sends your GPS-position with an alarm to a company, that if they cannot contact you personally will immediately organize emergency action.
of course works only in areas where mobile signals can be received….

[CharlyBonifaz]

without knowing exactly what it is:
I’d wash it with Dawn/Ivory….. until the flakes come off, then dry it with a towel; finally put baby oil on it (it’s a very fine oil which is absorbed easily and nothing will stick to it as is the case with vaseline/ointment/unguent etc.)
once a day
after a week you should be back to normal skin…….

[CharlyBonifaz]

Vicky,
bingo!
thanks a bunch; exactly what I had been looking for……
had a very similar chapter in one of temple grandins books….
your link is fascinating, connecting into other animal behaviours as well
elke

[CharlyBonifaz]

mineral oil in their mouth

makes only sense if it is a gas colic

muscularly with banamine

works fine for a “regular” colic if you can give it i.v.; it makes terrible muscle necrosis i.m.

no digestive sounds is high indication for a major problem, please call a vet!

[CharlyBonifaz]

but i never heard any.

high indication to call a vet asap!!

[CharlyBonifaz]

without rest and feed breaks,

I’d like to know if that is true….
I learnt that they need a break after 4 hours of work to chew cud (while working their rumen quits his contractions) and after 2 hours break one could work them again for 4 hours
working them 6 hours without break for several days would lead to a loss of body weight
(mine doesn’t like to work through high temperatures anyway….)
elke

[CharlyBonifaz]

But you knew all this.

ooops, no; being a greenhorn as fas as mowing is concerned I sure cherish the tricks!

[CharlyBonifaz]

nose pegs?

[CharlyBonifaz]

really must be a heck of a time development wise…..
was the one and only time, mine actually turned against me……out of the blue…..
as an afterthought:
I didn’t have a clue what was going on: a lot of things had changed in his environment
– he was part of a horse herd, whose mamas had come down with foals, so the herd structure changed ( he was pushed away where he was being welcomed before)
– a week prior he had an accident with a car, which really wasn’t his mistake, but of course shook him up
– he started to loose his front milk teeth that week
– I wore a red blouse that day, to which in fact he had been used to
– the books said 😉 that around this time they will challenge their position in the herd one more time, before they settle in their ranks…..reread the books only afterwards 🙁

since I wasn’t prepared for it at all, I actually had the phone in my hand after the incident, to call the abattoir; what saved his neck was a holiday and 2 guys that told me, to get my ass off the ground and show him who the boss was 😎
we never have worked so hard ever since…..
and he has come to be a most amiable ox…..

[CharlyBonifaz]

no halter, but:
http://www2.westfalia.de/shops/agrishop/stalleinrichtungen/anbindungen/rinderanbindung/3122-trevira_halsriemen_bulle_7cm_breitd_ring_wirbel_doppelschnalle.htm
since the neighbours live 50 feet away, cow bells are nono 🙁
elke

[CharlyBonifaz]

@does leap:
there is a red line running back from your left horse’s harness
what’s its use?
elke

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