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CharlyBonifaz
Member@Rod 11527 wrote:
As often as a horse
as in horses it depends……
had mine reshot in winter after 6 weeksMemberan old lady plowing behind her cows
bivol,
you made my day đ
finally some cattle slower than mx ox
elkeMemberwhy’d you want texas longhorns, besides the horns?
their looks (colours); supposedly friendly, easy going characters, used to “work”, and… did I mention their looks? đŽ
MemberThere are a handful of bulls approved for semen export to the UK
I know of “Tempter” only (Dickinson Cattle Co.Inc.) as being approved for import into the EU. Do you know of any other??
elkeMemberI’ll attach a picture here to get the “experts” opinions.
1. ask Duke
2. my opinion? its ok
elkeMemberare they in working order?
oh yes, they are; the first one lacks its leather connection at the lower end of the hames; any stout leather belt should do; connections to traces seem to have been standardized, so the iron pins usually fit. Some of these connections were made with simple leatherstrings, wrapped around a couple of times and knotted
the steer didn’t look like he “crouched”
charly was just practising, he didn’t really have to dig in đ
Memberare they more comfortable than 3-pad harnesses?
he hasn’t told me yet…… and I#m not sure; it has less three-dimensional movement, but the pad area is bigger; I suppose it needs closer adjusting to one animal than 3-pad harnesses, that can be used on a lot of animals…..
i imagine more expensive, too
well….. about 5 dollars on ebay…… anyone of them…….:cool:
do you know some footage, films or clips of oxen working in forehead yoke?
maybe Fabian can chime in, he’s the expert on that
Memberbivol,
that’s Charly for sure……the harnesses on the picture are called full harness (vollkumt), and are not 3-pad harnesses. i’m curious how they are made …
http://img14.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=vollpolsterkumtspitzea.jpg
does that help?
for Sundays only đ
http://img4.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=vollpolsterkumtprachtb.jpgMemberi saw a video clip of a steer working in a forehead yoke (Elke was that you?),
can’t say if you don’t let me in on the video đ
thanks for trying to catch on the Bulgarian leadMember@Anne
run it all around the animal and hook it to the ring on the pole (you can still run the circle through the neckband).
I do like the sturdy look of that britchen on the right! been thinking of making a broad one from a horses breastcollar…..
@Bivol
do you speak any Bulgarian? The university from Sofia keeps up its forest holding in Jundola, where they work with oxen. The type of forest and terrain make them superior to horses. About 10 years ago they must have worked 16 oxenteams. I#d love to search the net for them……
elkeMember@Anne
try a britchen hooked to the pole
elkeMember“ochsengesapann”
“ochsengespann”
might find you more with googles đ
also try the french
“attelage de boeufs” , “attelage bovin”
the italian
“coppia di buoi”
the spanish
“yunta de bueyes”
and don’t forget to check on youtube as well
lots of fun!and ixy:
yes there are actually 2 books/booklets in German concerned with the working oxen:“Modernes Geschirr fĂźr Arbeitsrinder” by Rolf Minhorst
http://zugrinder.de/eng/eng_index.html
it contains a pattern for various sizes of 3pad-harnesses“Kuhanspannung in Deutschland” by Heinrich Steinmetz
a reprint from 1936
http://www.amazon.de/Kuhanspannung-Deutschland-J%C3%B6rg-Bremond/dp/398086751X
contains any knowledge they had on German harnessing of cattle during those years; very good overview over the then known harnesses, yokes etc.elke
Membera lawnmower like this one?
http://www.myvideo.de/watch/5696508/Koppeln_nachmaehen_mit_Vorderwagen_und_Spindelmaeher
elkeMemberI’m not sure if I like the “old way to farm”
actually, considering all the environmental impact and the occupational possibilities, I see it as a very progressive idea of farming
I do however recognize the importance of bringing it back to the attention of the public :rolleyes:Memberđ
My little boy turns one on the 16th so if I don’t want to get killed by his mother I may have to skip this year.
why not take them both on a birthday trip; just so that the little one can get a breath early on at what’s going on …..
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