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CharlyBonifaz
MemberWould adopting a “barefoot trim” be of benefit to oxen rather than shoeing??
One might get the idea; reason: when we shod mine for the first time the angle changed, the hoofsmith said it was exactly what he would expect in a horse; without shoes the angle grows out again….
You still have to throw the ox down to do a trim, not just shoeing?
neither if you teach him to pick up his feet……:D
Memberi’ve never heard of a hen doing this!
mothers 😉
Memberexpect them to talk back to you 😀
they don’t like to work when it’s hot, when it’s feeding time, when they don’t want to, ……
mine has to accept, he still has his obligations no matter what (not when sick!)
I have to accept, it might take longer 😉we all have good days and bad
I like to think I’m more stubborn (you may want to read this as “persistent”) than he is :rolleyes:Membercan you take its pulse? in long distance horse races, they expect the pulse to regenerate to below 72 beats per minute within 10 minutes (or 64 within 20 minutes), otherwise the horse will be disqualified; so if it takes longer than that possibly check your horse’s health because usually well trained/conditioned horses manage those limits easily….
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Back to the Future
“This is how we roll.”Member” No pressure driving
Here is an alternative you may consider. Actually, all the advice above is good and will work with sufficient time and understanding (I don’t mean compassion, I mean accurately reading what is going on). I train and drive all my horses and mules with a method I call “no pressure” driving. That means when they are walking in the direction I want to go at the speed I want to go there will be no pressure on the bit. So what is the difference? I try to never return their pressure on the bit with pressure of my own; ie. “hold them back”. Instead when I ask them to go I expect them to walk, when one takes a step out of line I correct it with a non verbal command vie the lines. Tap, tap, tap, you are supposed to be walking here. If they don’t “hear” this I do it a little louder, again with the lines. They will learn to walk, and pull things with out any pressure on the bit. You have to train yourself to release all pressure at every opportunity to give them the chance to do it right. A trick I play on myself to make sure I am releasing them quickly and consistently is to translate every bump on the lines to words. For example, slow, left, right, come back, pay attention now. I can give those commands as fast as I can say them and I should be releasing just as quickly. Don’t make the mistake of thinking I am driving around without contact on my animals. Contact is extremely important to encouraging and developing a young team. I just don’t want pressure. For a young team I might have a constant chatter of signals going up the lines, but I want to know what each one is, like whispering in their ear. I have used this method with mules that were pulling hard on the lines with great effect. Any method you choose will require patience and time. Good luck. Donn”
just a quote of what comes up on the link…..Memberwhen do you feed him? can you clang around / bang on the arch while feeding him? just getting him used to the noise without being hooked or tied but having a chance to develop some positive feelings for this noise….
Membersolved that problem by putting a head lamp on my ox 😉
he never even flinched……MemberI realize this text is probably a little tedious without pictures and promise to oblige.
😀 promise taken
Memberso if it were body language indeed, is there any way to change it? wider yokes? is it something that can be changed at all? being fixed together, no2 cannot get out of a potentially intimidating situation….
another idea: off ox very often is taller/bigger; does he not have to carry his head lower if the yoke has to remain horizontally?Memberit just sort of came to me with the last threat, the off animals, and here you describe the same problem on the same side….
body language? and then what….???Memberat least 3times it is the off animal, is it always this position?
Memberhttp://cal.vet.upenn.edu/projects/poison/plants/ppredma.htm
acording to this:
“as little as 0.3 % of the body weight as leaves”Memberspringing up of ideas trying to solve part of the problem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5SxX2EntEoMembercan only speak for mine: 4 years
my niece had the courage to sit on mine today, good bucking bull 😮
ah, well, had the saddle on him for some time for walks and started adding weight, finally added my niece…..
brought them both home safe and sound 😉 some bushes took a beating…..
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