[Carl Russell]

Shucks…. 😮

I’m not sure I can take total credit for the idea, but I agree it helps, as some titles are not descriptive at all…… and I’m glad to do it.:D

Carl

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I worked her the other day, and things seem to be about the same, however as I observe her it appears that she in fact is quite impaired. In fact it is significantly different in some areas, such as now she approaches the water tub very slowly, often missing it, or actually bumping her nose before she finds it. This is much different than just a few months ago.

I am still resolved to keep her active, and to see where it goes.

Thanks for ALL the great replies, Carl

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6″ front to back. Depth from single-tree holes to hitch pin is about 3″

Carl

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Here are the pix I was supposed to post a couple of weeks ago.

43″ evener

Offset holes are about 1/2″ on center

Single-trees 29″ steel tube makes clevises 30″ on center

[Carl Russell]

And a different hitch.

Carl

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Here are a few more pix from a workshop I participated in during 2007, showing step by step setting the choker, turning, hitching, and starting.

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Sorry about that…. Lisa will attach a PDF…. I have to go, Carl

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David, et. al….

I will email you the excel version, but here is the “2009” cash flow report….. I have not yet finished 2010 and I won’t be able to get to it right away….. but this should work for now.

Please see next post by Lisa….

Although we do have a tasks list, and volunteer requirements, it should be noted that the 2011 event will in all likelihood be very different.

It should also be noted that getting the $10,000 in sponsorship is not an easy task, and it will not be Lisa working on that this year.

I am also not wanting to direct too much of what happens this year, but I will reiterate that it is hard to predict how much work will be needed, so while it is easy to envision a certain sized event…. it is much easier to actually pull off a smaller one.

We also need to understand the the $53,000 that NOFA can make is based on not paying very much to their presenters, and a host of salaried positions working throughout the year. This is only to point out that it will be difficult for us to give them a picture of how we see the tow income streams meshing. I personally believe NEAPFD needs to make enough to pay traveling teamsters some money…. some will certainly donate their time. We also will need to make enough to pay at least one coordinator.

It certainly will be difficult to sort it all out, but we have covered our basic costs for several years, so it isn’t like we will be adding a financial burden to NOFA. It seems to me there could be some way to collect a separate fee from those that attend NEAPFD…… I am kind of drawing a blank.

Carl

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Does’ Leap;23510 wrote:

Carl, I hauled my first 3 loads of firewood with the scoot yesterday using your chaining procedure. It worked perfectly, thank you. Next on the list is loading efficiently and bridle chains…….

George

….. and pictures!!!!

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jenjudkins;23512 wrote:

While I agree, Andy, that a sled or stone boat provides an easily measurable way to strengthen a horse’s muscling and endurance, I find skidding wood provides other benefits. All that stopping and fiddling you mention, strengthen the horse’s mind and provides the basis for a good partnership. I love the finesse of it. Approaching the log, applying the chains, positioning the horse, hooking on, moving the wood strategically, stop, reposition, etc. All these things teach the horse patience, to tune into the teamster and apply energy in a focused and efficient manner, which is something I want in place before I set him to the task of fairly mindlessly pulling a load around the country roads. In my mind skidding wood (or something that simulates it) is a pre-requisite to driving in a cart or sled in many ways. But that may just be me and my own experience. I get bored easily, lol!

You nailed that one Jen….. There is physical conditioning, and mental conditioning, but perhaps most importantly is the operational conditioning. There are many tasks that require a certain functionality, but skidding logs from the woods is such a varied and challenging exercise that, to do it well, the teamster needs to possess skills and leadership that go a long way toward building a horse….. from the inside out.

Not that Andy is incorrect, nor anybody else for that matter….. I have traveled a lot of miles on the road and around the field too…..

Carl

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jenjudkins;23496 wrote:

….But in the end, I will do whatever is right for the horse. A horse without a job is a waste of talent and energy….

And a waste of your talent.:D

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I am just getting to this late….. and tired, so I will put some brain power to it tonight and reply in the morning.

Thanks Dave, Carl

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If you have any trouble with them, Jen, just say the word, you will have a lot of folks who will vouch for you.

What you will be doing with him will be only good for him. There has got to be some understanding in the agreement that recognizes that you have a lot of experience and judgment in the field of rehab and applying animal power. Your discretion should not be encumbered by some generalization of an over-concerned administrator.

Good luck, Carl

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The loop with the chains is an old way of binding logs. The long handled grab is used as a lever to pull chain through the slip hook, then the grab is hooked onto the tightest free link outside of the slip to prevent the chain from loosening again.

I do use the single log chain technique for multiple logs on my scoot. I pull the two end of the chain up over the load and put the binder to them.

Carl

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Does’ Leap;23451 wrote:

……
Carl, does this explanation correspond with your diagram on your SJF Bobsled article for “chaining a single log with one chain”?http://www.draftanimalpower.com/misc.php?do=showattachments&t=1232

George

Yes it does. I just want to reiterate that if you are just moving a log or two with the scoot then chaining it on can be fairly relaxed. However, if like me, you want to freight those ponies then, especially in winter with frozen logs, it is important that you get a good firm binding on those logs.

The design that Les uses with chains from runner to runner will either limit the movement of the runners independent of each other, or will allow the logs to shift and move.

I have a fair number of loads on a scoot chained as I describe, and I feel that it is pretty much fail-safe. Nothing worse than a shifting load, or logs sliding off the back (or front) of your sled.

As far as the runner length…. below are a couple of pics that show my frustration with runners that were too short for hauling 16′ logs. In this case, going uphill along a slope, there was too little weight on the front of the sled and it was just a little too unstable….. but my chain didn’t come undone:D.

Carl

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