[Carl Russell]

Now I specifically wrote “moonshadow wisdom”:D

Carl

[Carl Russell]

Point in fact, they actually lift the load as they move forward. If they only pushed they would not have traction. It is us that pull the load driving the animals.

Carl

[Carl Russell]

Aaron, nice to see you plying the trade.

Carl

[Carl Russell]

DUDE!!!! Glad to see your name posted here again. Love to read some more of that moonshadow wisdom. Welcome back, Carl

[Carl Russell]

grey;12145 wrote:

….. If you’re just going up and pulling out a little log or two, or making a few passes across the field with the harrow, or going out for an hour-long wagon ride down the road, a maladjusted harness likely won’t bother the horse. ……

I might just add that the adjustments on harnesses are there so that the harness can be adjusted correctly. It really makes no difference the level of exertion expected from the horses, the harnesses should be adjusted correctly. Belly bands, side straps, and britchen should all be snug. Britchen should be up, and the front trace should be held in its place. Otherwise no need for a harness.

Carl

[Carl Russell]

My own opinion is that we should be able to agree on some fundamental principles that we feel are representative of draft animal powered forestry on an international level. Trying to restrict the mission of the group to particular implement choices will only serve to limit our membership.

I really think we are missing the opportunity to use this organization as a mechanism to “connect” people internationally around the issues, all of them, that affect our businesses.

There is a possibility that down the road, a functioning organization might take on big issues such as insurance, but developing a network for sharing ideas, techniques, and methods will be much simpler to start, and it is a product that is not available yet.

Personally, I am not interested in improving the lot of horse-loggers, or worrying about business details like insurance. I am excited about making connections around forestry practices that are ideally suited to the use of draft animals, and the opportunities to develop cooperative marketing of services and forest products.

Carl

[Carl Russell]

Vicki;12084 wrote:

Carl, allow me to add that britchen is sometimes used with oxen as well as horses, for the same purpose of helping hold back a load, and on a single ox it also minimizes the ox tangling in the traces because it holds the traces up near the rear legs. So britchen is not exclusively equine.

If I am incorrect about this, let me know.

Sorry to be single minded. I have also used britchen on my cattle to hold back loads on the sled and manure spreader.

Thanks, Carl

[Carl Russell]

“Draft (Animal) Powered Forestry International”— I Like it.

“To establish an international directory of associations, organizations, and individuals who are supporting /(or practicing)/ the work of draft animal forestry practitioners”—- I have to say even though this isn’t one of the ties, it speaks more to what I see this sort of organization providing to its members.

But if I am being held to protocol I’ll vote for–“Share techniques and strategies”

Thanks Scott. The list looks complete. I hope you all can hang in there with this process. I think we have to make a few more accommodations for the time it takes for all of us to be in the same state of mind, at the same time. We have gone this far without this organization, and I’m not worried that someone will come and try to take the idea away from us, but we are going to need to have regularly scheduled actions that keep those of us interested involved.

Keep up the good work, Carl

[Carl Russell]

Bumpus, the question in the poll says nothing about the words that are used to describe the topic. The way I read it, it asks if the topic is explained clearly enough. It doesn’t even specify this site, nor which posts that you infer are unclear.

Your assumption that some people are talking over others’ heads is unfounded. If we are all to respect each other here, we need to assume that everyone has the ability to decipher meaning from the written word. From two year’s experience, most of the posters here are extremely approachable, and understand that there are NO stupid questions.

I am still concerned that your intent here is to create controversy that need not exist.

Furthermore, there is no scientific conclusion that can be derived from this poll as you have no control to eliminate bias. 14 people responded out of hundreds who have visited this site since you posted the poll.

And I completely disagree about the 3rd grader in the college setting. If you teach your child like they are incapable of understanding a topic, then they won’t understand it.

Carl

[Carl Russell]

Right on. Let’s keep the dream alive. We are not alone. There is a ground swell of people who feel in their bones the realities of which you speak.
Thanks for posting that.
Carl

[Carl Russell]

Simon’s Ardennes stallions, Sultan and Prince working, and 3 year old Apollo.
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Enjoy, Carl

[Carl Russell]

These are photos of Simon’s horses that he asked me to post for him.

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Mares Star, Molly, and Tempete.

More in the next post, Carl

[Carl Russell]

Well done. Welcome to the “I done it alone club”. Here’s to more untaken photos.

Carl

[Carl Russell]

Is this what you wanted Scott? I will add to this list soon. Many things in front of this on the priority list.
Carl

[Carl Russell]

Greetings Lonestar. Good to have you here. There are a few old threads about starting horses, so look through them, but if you have specific questions, I’m sure some others will pipe in.
Carl

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