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Carl Russell
ModeratorGeorge, the order of progression is 5,4,2,3. Picture 1 is of a separate log.
In picture 3, you should be able to see how the chains have been reorganized to lay more favorably around the logs.
I posted them in order, but the site not only could not respect the direction of the progression, it couldn’t even post them in the actual order. I am disappointed that the pics could not be correctly oriented. I evn tried to edit the order, but did not have that functionality.
Carl
Carl Russell
ModeratorI do not take the wood all the way like this. In the last pic, where the logs are squared up, and tight together, you can see I have swung the chain around to a better situation. It takes a lot less time to reorganize the chain like that, then to go back for another log that can be hitched at the same time.
Going is good here too.
Carl
Carl Russell
ModeratorRed pine…. Just selling to a concentration yard for saw logs. Scots pine can be sold to the same market if, and that is a big IF, it is straight enough….
Hope you heal Donn.
I have yet to use the DAPNet hook. Timber has been using it with his single steer, but I expect to run it next week…. Will report back.
Carl
Carl Russell
ModeratorOh well, that is stupid… You should be able to see the progression…. Site doesn’t want to respect my selected order…..
Carl Russell
ModeratorThank you all for the replies…… I am pulling together a short testimonial to post in the high-profile mags, highlighting some of his contribution to the community of interest, and just letting folks know of his passing.
Later I hope to pull together a more comprehensive collection of his work, philosophy, and innovation. That should get underway during 2015, and I would very much appreciate any other testimonials, or insights into his impact as a teacher/mentor/inspiration.
To me there is a thread that runs through many of your comments that I think really encapsulates Les and his contribution to the working horse. Of course there are the standards that he set, the attention to detail, the precise innovations that many have found valuable. There is also the free and generous way that he shared his points, not as advertising, or for personal gain, but because he really took his role seriously as a land steward, animal husband, and craftsman.
A well adjusted harness didn’t reflect to him your ability, or achievement, but the comfort and functionality that it affords the horse. Those attentions to detail were not dogma for him, they were the expression of his art. He made it clear that serious thought and caring is at the root of working the land with animals, and I believe that was really what he shared.
Most of us reached out to him for specifics, but I know for me, and from what I read above from you, that what we came away with was the inspiration to think, to understand, to strive to improve understanding, and to put that into play as we perfect our craft. For him it wasn’t enough to have information to share, it was that the information he shared led to uncover the great commitment he made to his land, his animals, and to the equipment that connected them.
Thank you all…. Work hard…. and do a good job.
Carl
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Carl Russell
ModeratorJay, I also have a single Barden cart with shafts that I do not expect to use this winter. It looks like one of the tires has a slow leak, but you are welcome to it…….until we lose snow cover.
Not to create a confusion of choice….
Carl
Carl Russell
ModeratorSo sorry that you had to go through that Jay………
Carl Russell
ModeratorOne more year passes with great international connections on DAP.com. Merry Christmas and happy new year…..
Carl
Carl Russell
ModeratorAuctions Donn… Auctions….. I can’t part with them, but I have found them that way…. and I am the local depository for all thing old horse from many older gents who have been holding on to good old stuff for years…..
Carl Russell
ModeratorI missed the part about it being teeth. I was assume it was bit…. Mine was bit ring… My hold backs are adjusted as yours.
When ground driving I always hook them up on the market strap ring.
Strange indeed George…
Carl Russell
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Carl Russell
ModeratorGeorge, I just had the same thing happen the other day… Hitched on the pole on a cart.. Took some doing, but I was also able to get the bit off the way it went on.
Matter of fact, I have had that happen a few times over the years. While it seems like a devastating situation for the horse, I am always pleasantly surprised at how well the animals take direction toward the solution.
Clearly it makes sense to take steps to prevent this from happening, but I also think folks should understand that the underlying communication that you clearly have with your horses is fundamental to successful recovery of these cases.
In my case, my mare threw herself back, and wanted to swing off the road. Of course the stuck bit was overriding everything I was trying to convey through the lines, so I had to rely on voice to calm her down before getting off the cart to even investigate what was going on. Kneeling on the ground in front of the team, lifting up on the pole while pushing down on the horse’s nose, trying to hold the snaffle ring to slide it out of the hold-back hook, and convincing the mare that the added pressure was necessary for relief all add up to substantial commitment from the horse.
She had to really work at getting her head that low,mand that far back to hook herself like that. I am not sure of the circumstances that caused it, but it truly was a freak situation…. 1% type of deal.
As much as we would all like to avoid these problems, I have found that when you work horses, you find mishaps. Prevention is only part of the cure. Preparation for the unpredictable has also got to be part of it.
Stay safe out there, Carl
Carl Russell
ModeratorI was wondering about what appeared to be clichiness….
Carl
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ModeratorI have used a large brusch saw, like a huge weed whacker, but you still need to cut them low.
As long as the Stubs are less than an inch high, I wouldn’t think it would be a problem for the horses…. Especially if you have snow to pack down over them when working. I have worked through areas like this many times and never have had a foot problem…. Of course you need to weigh these risks for yourself… Don’t let me ruin your horses with foolhardy advice.
It takes a lot of work to work horses….. And sometimes that means cutting a whole lot of nasty little stems. One stem at a time, and soon enough the trail will be exactly the way you want it.
Carl
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Carl Russell
ModeratorActually Mark, and all, the Walingford hames have size numbers that do not match our conventional understanding of collar/hames fitting.
The number on the hame…. 12, 14, 16…. Refers to the distance measured between the top of trace attachment to the lowest notch for the top hame strap. In other words the number is a more accurate measure of draft location than mere collar size.
The letter …. 14B… Is an indication of the shape of the hame…. Straight versus bowed…. To meet the shape of the horse’s neck.
This requires more purposeful appraisal of the shoulder/collar fit, and point of draft location, but the hames do have adjustment notches to meet variability for each animal.
Carl
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